Anecdotes and Jokes · ATU 1804**
The Tales about Payment for Absolution story type (ATU 1804**)
The Tales about Payment for Absolution story type (ATU 1804**) follows a clever penitent who uses quick wit to gain forgiveness from a greedy authority figure without paying a demanded fee.
- Tale family
- Anecdotes and Jokes
- Classification
- Jokes About Clergymen And Religious Figures
- cultures attest it
- 5
The Tales about Payment for Absolution story type (ATU 1804**) examines the clash between spiritual duty and financial greed, defined by a specific transaction where a clergyman demands money to grant absolution, only for a clever penitent to turn the tables and dodge the fee.
The pattern
At the core of ATU 1804** is a direct exchange gone sideways. A church authority requires a penitent to pay a fee or property tithe before receiving formal forgiveness for a wrongdoing. Instead of paying or simply walking away, the penitent accepts the premise of absolution but designs a clever logical loop or subtle trick. The penitent walks away fully absolved according to the official's own words, leaving the greedy authority with empty hands. Unlike broader domestic comedy tales like The Silence Wager story type (ATU 1351), this subtype focuses strictly on outsmarting institutional extortion through verbal agility.
How cultures tell it
Cataloged within the Aarne-Thompson-Uther index under the chapter for Anecdotes and Jokes—specifically within the sub-division covering Jokes About Clergymen And Religious Figures (ATU 1725–1849)—this double-starred entry is attested across 5 distinct provenance cultures in folk narrative archives. While larger categories detail domestic disputes like The Soon-Consoled Widow story type (ATU 1350) or marital squabbles seen in The 'God Help You!' A husband and wife quarrel and do not speak to each other for a whole day story type (ATU 1351A), ATU 1804** reflects a widespread folk tradition of lampooning corrupt figures who put a price tag on grace. The five recorded regional traditions share a common social impulse: using humor to criticize officials who abuse their sacred standing for personal gain.
Motifs that define it
While ATU 1804* serves as a specialized, double-starred catalog entry without assigned individual motif numbers in early indices, folklorists track its structure through key thematic mechanics. The primary driver is the required fee for absolution, countered immediately by the penitent's verbal trick. Scholarly indexers specifically note a cross-reference to Type 1806 (concerning related jokes about ritual fees and clergy tricks). The narrative resolution relies on strict linguistic literalism: the penitent uses the officiant's own formal declaration of forgiveness as proof that the debt is settled, demonstrating how everyday folks turned official phrasing against those in power.
Reading it with kids
When sharing ATU 1804** with children, the story serves as an engaging entry point for discussions about fairness, honest leadership, and peaceful problem-solving. Historical variants often deal with historical church practices or stern penalties, so modern retellings work best when translated into relatable settings—such as a greedy tollkeeper demanding an unfair tax or a playground rule-maker trying to charge a fee to join a game. Children naturally cheer for the underdog who wins using brainpower rather than force, making this archetype an empowering narrative choice.
How the pattern varies
- The penitent promises a future payment that can only be collected in the afterlife.
- The penitent uses careful wordplay during confession so the official inadvertently forgives the fee itself.
- The penitent substitutes a worthless token into the collection purse after receiving the formal blessing.
- The penitent argues that demanding money for absolution is a sin requiring its own immediate, free absolution.
A note for grown-ups
- Highlight the clever verbal reasoning so kids see how quick thinking can peacefully resolve unfair demands.
- Contextualize historical settings by explaining that older folk humor often poked fun at figures who abused authority.
- Use the narrative as a conversation starter about ethics, fairness, and why genuine help should not carry unfair costs.
Retellings to try
- A clever space traveler encounters an orbital station guard demanding a rare star-crystal for clearance, but outwits the guard using station regulations.
- A market baker in a fantasy city is asked for three golden loaves in exchange for a blessing, but presents an illusory loaf that disappears into thin air.
- A forest creature outwits a self-proclaimed woodland magistrate who tries to charge a basket of acorns to cross the main bridge.
FAQs
- What defines the ATU 1804** folktale type?
- ATU 1804** is cataloged under Anecdotes and Jokes in the Aarne-Thompson-Uther index (specifically Jokes About Clergymen And Religious Figures, 1725–1849). It features stories where a penitent outwits an authority figure who demands payment for granting absolution.
- How widespread are stories of this type?
- Scholarship records ATU 1804** across 5 distinct provenance cultures in folk narrative databases, reflecting a widespread storytelling tradition that uses humor to challenge greedy or corrupt officials.
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About this classification
- Aarne–Thompson–Uther tale-type index· Wikipedia
- Folktexts — a library of folktales & folklore· D.L. Ashliman, Univ. of Pittsburgh
- Thompson Motif-Index of Folk-Literature· Wikipedia
Tale-type data from the Aarne–Thompson–Uther index; motif labels from the Thompson Motif-Index. Source release 2026-06-12.